tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12292843.post5492625002520184424..comments2024-03-06T04:32:08.218-06:00Comments on William Cook's Fusings: Why do North Americans not like MODELS?William R Cookhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13627036863243572742noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12292843.post-39232756164585929102013-04-11T20:41:51.586-06:002013-04-11T20:41:51.586-06:00Hi Will,
This may be of interest (thanks for poin...Hi Will,<br /><br />This may be of interest (thanks for pointing out by Shriram Krishnamurthi):<br /><br /><a href="http://arnetminer.org/conferencebestpapers;jsessionid=E0A30E1D0F6EBD1F713AB5C29B79D8F7.tt" rel="nofollow">Best Papers vs. Top Cited Papers in Computer Science (since 1996)</a><br /><br />http://arnetminer.org/conferencebestpapers;jsessionid=E0A30E1D0F6EBD1F713AB5C29B79D8F7.tt<br /><Craighttp://homepages.ecs.vuw.ac.nz/~craignoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12292843.post-89053652422645259792013-01-25T14:40:43.410-06:002013-01-25T14:40:43.410-06:00Not just North America, there are also few papers ...Not just North America, there are also few papers in MODELS from UK, Australia, Japan, and China. Actually, I'm afraid a very large proportion of papers are from German-speaking countries (including Northern Europe) and French-speaking ones (including the French-speaking part of Canada). Then a few from Italy and Spain. So there seems to be a geographical factor :D <br />Hui Songhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12515296322437748263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12292843.post-28314500033842092422012-07-22T11:14:18.398-06:002012-07-22T11:14:18.398-06:00There are definitely continental (and even nationa...There are definitely continental (and even national) characteristics in research fields. Systems work is surely more a US thing than European; whereas program calculation is the other way round. Within functional programming, US is strict and mostly untyped, EU is lazy and nearly all typed. Similarly, there are characteristics of particular departments. Need there be a "why"? Perhaps itJeremy Gibbonshttp://www.cs.ox.ac.uk/jeremy.gibbons/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12292843.post-47029815066369269322012-07-12T08:00:33.807-06:002012-07-12T08:00:33.807-06:00Don't measure conference quality by acceptance...Don't measure conference quality by acceptance rates. It means either the conference is selective or is a hot topic, but nothing more. Quality is difficult to measure, but it certainly should include number of citations, and where these citations come from. We need a "google paper-rank and conference-rank" to help us figure this out :-)William R Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13627036863243572742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12292843.post-45888382329504306832012-07-12T03:44:08.127-06:002012-07-12T03:44:08.127-06:00A few comments:
- MODELS will come back to the US...A few comments:<br /><br />- MODELS will come back to the US in 2013 (October) and will be hosted in Miami. Hopefully we can get more North American submissions.<br /><br />- MODELS 2012 has an NSF grant to support Doctoral Students from the US to travel to Austria.<br /><br />- MODELS acceptance rates are recently in the 20% range, with one edition at 15-18% acceptance very recently. I am not Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08472467114191433796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12292843.post-34242297793664075672012-07-09T18:17:24.212-06:002012-07-09T18:17:24.212-06:00I've never been to MODELs so it is hard for me...I've never been to MODELs so it is hard for me to know. Neil Ernst @neilernst tweeted that the same applies to CAiSE: I find there is only one US author in all the papers at CAiSE 12 in Poland.<br /><br />The comments give some good ideas, but none have really answered my question. The funding situation may be a consequence of some underlying beliefs, not a cause. Perhaps some more detailed William R Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13627036863243572742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12292843.post-33245487310295362782012-07-08T23:35:16.856-06:002012-07-08T23:35:16.856-06:00European funding sources are also more supportive ...European funding sources are also more supportive of modeling work, with large programs shared across multiple nations. It is challenging to get funding at times (at least in the US) for modeling work, which then slows the pipeline for potential publications.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12292843.post-5092157043562348582012-07-08T14:39:17.525-06:002012-07-08T14:39:17.525-06:00Just FYI, MODELS is generally held every other yea...Just FYI, MODELS is generally held every other year in N America. The only exception is when it goes outside Eur/N America: eg to New Zealand in 2011. Modelling in academia has always been somewhat European; ironically, industry modelling is mainly americanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12292843.post-80769324605966139412012-07-08T12:12:58.809-06:002012-07-08T12:12:58.809-06:00To be fair, you need to show the percentages of pa...To be fair, you need to show the percentages of papers <i>submitted,</i> not published. AOSD is/was a particularly insular group that went into some dark group-think times that shunned those "out of the loop".<br /><br />Much to the damage of the health of the conference, their good ideas went to ICSE/FSE instead. And then the cycle continues, with fewer and fewer submissions from greatMacneil Shonlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16382866616548432101noreply@blogger.com